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	<title>Comments on: Towards Observational Equality</title>
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		<title>By: Conor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have extensionality in the form

prf : all x0:S0 =&gt; all x1:S1 =&gt; all xq:(x0:S0)=(x1:S1) =&gt; (f0 x0 : T0) = (f1 x1 : T1)
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ext {(f0 : all x0:S0 =&gt; T0) = (f1 : all x1:S1 =&gt; T1)} prf :
  (f0 : all x0:S0 =&gt; T0) = (f1 : all x1:S1 =&gt; T1)

That&#039;s a synth form (it needs to be, because it can grow a spine), but I should also add the corresponding and less noisy check form.

I&#039;ve proved the induction principle for Nat (aka W Two So), which relies crucially on proving that two functions from Zero are equal.

Which isn&#039;t much of a test, I grant you, but there&#039;ll be more in a bit.</description>
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<p>prf : all x0:S0 => all x1:S1 => all xq:(x0:S0)=(x1:S1) => (f0 x0 : T0) = (f1 x1 : T1)<br />
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ext {(f0 : all x0:S0 => T0) = (f1 : all x1:S1 => T1)} prf :<br />
  (f0 : all x0:S0 => T0) = (f1 : all x1:S1 => T1)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a synth form (it needs to be, because it can grow a spine), but I should also add the corresponding and less noisy check form.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve proved the induction principle for Nat (aka W Two So), which relies crucially on proving that two functions from Zero are equal.</p>
<p>Which isn&#8217;t much of a test, I grant you, but there&#8217;ll be more in a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Conor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you check out tests/WCoe.suit, you&#039;ll find lists constructed from W-types, and you&#039;ll also find a hypothetical q : List X = List Y pushing through a little List X, leaving a little List Y with coerced elements. If you run the thing, you&#039;ll see that the equality proof being pushed has a tendency to grow...

Still, it goes. Ext coming up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you check out tests/WCoe.suit, you&#8217;ll find lists constructed from W-types, and you&#8217;ll also find a hypothetical q : List X = List Y pushing through a little List X, leaving a little List Y with coerced elements. If you run the thing, you&#8217;ll see that the equality proof being pushed has a tendency to grow&#8230;</p>
<p>Still, it goes. Ext coming up!</p>
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		<title>By: Conor</title>
		<link>http://www.e-pig.org/epilogue/?p=102&#038;cpage=1#comment-4282</link>
		<dc:creator>Conor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 23:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve done the first three of these; I&#039;ve added two and two with the W-type representation of Nat; some useful stuff works. But I&#039;ve also hit some gremlins...

I had a bit of a nightmare with some of the diagnostics, which were quoting terms containing de Bruijn levels, resulting in negative de Bruijn indices. I&#039;ve also hit the more serious issue that levels (introduced only by quote, as it happens) are untyped. Recall that quote is typeless quotation of beta-normal forms. That don&#039;t work no mo, because computation relies on equality testing, which is typed: you need to produce typed refs when you go under a binder, so you need to know the type of a lambda, ya da ya da ya da.

If we can get by with typed quotation, we&#039;re out of dodge on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve done the first three of these; I&#8217;ve added two and two with the W-type representation of Nat; some useful stuff works. But I&#8217;ve also hit some gremlins&#8230;</p>
<p>I had a bit of a nightmare with some of the diagnostics, which were quoting terms containing de Bruijn levels, resulting in negative de Bruijn indices. I&#8217;ve also hit the more serious issue that levels (introduced only by quote, as it happens) are untyped. Recall that quote is typeless quotation of beta-normal forms. That don&#8217;t work no mo, because computation relies on equality testing, which is typed: you need to produce typed refs when you go under a binder, so you need to know the type of a lambda, ya da ya da ya da.</p>
<p>If we can get by with typed quotation, we&#8217;re out of dodge on this one.</p>
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